Notables (because they're shows I watch): 17. Lost [14.6m; 9th in 18-49] 51. Prison Break [9.3m; 33rd in 18-49] 58. My Name Is Earl [8.9m; 37th in 18-49] 61. How I Met Your Mother [8.5m; 51st in 18-49] 61. Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip [8.5m; 41st in 18-49] 65. The Class [8.4m; 61st in 18-49] 68. The Office [8.3m; 28th in 18-49] 83. The Black Connellys [6.7m; 74th in 18-49] 87. Scrubs [6.4m; 51st in 18-49] 95. Friday Night Lights [6.1m; 93rd in 18-49] 102. 30 Rock [5.8m; 74th in 18-49] 120. Friday Night Smackdown [4.5m; 125th in 18-49] 123. The O.C. [4.3m; 112th in 18-49] 129. Gilmore Girls [3.7m; 121st in 18-49] 136. One Tree Hill [2.9m; 133rd in 18-49] 138. Veronica Mars [2.5m; 137th in 18-49]
Originally posted by kentishIf Studio 60 was #61, why was it canceled? I know the competition on Monday is not as tough as Thursdays, but still...
Because it was billed as this high end, potential top 20 show that cost something like 3 million an episode to produce. And when the ratings tanked, NBC couldn't afford to pick it up for a second season. Also, I do believe that this is showing the season average. Studio 60's ratings started out strong and got progressively worse as the season went on.
EDIT: Man, NCIS is the one top 20 show that nobody talks about or seems to watch. (Except me and AWA.)
Originally posted by kentishI never really look at the ratings, but am surprised that the Office is that low. I remember when shows were canceled if they were not in the top 40.
68. The Office [8.3m; 28th in 18-49]
It's not the overall rating that matters, it's the 18-49 demographic that advertisers (and therefore networks) care about the most. 28th isn't bad for a show that probably doesn't cost a whole lot to make.
After doing some analysis, here's where each network's line seems to be: ABC: Unless you're a news magazine, Saturday Nigh Football, or a reality show, you need about an 8.5 rating (2.7 18-34) to stay on. The only exception was "Notes From The Underbelly", which garnered a 5.5 rating in its airing starting in April, and was picked up for a 2nd season. "Men in Trees" was right at the dividing line, with an 8.4 rating, 2.8 among 18-34s. I'm going to guess that ABC had enough dramas, which is why they went with MiT instead of "Six Degrees" or "The Nine", two similarly rated shows.
CBS: On CBS, it seems more important to have a high rating among 18-34 year olds. Everything with a rating above 2.8 among this group returned except for "King Of Queens", "Smith", and "The Class". And for the old people, there's still 60 Minutes and 48 Hours.
The CW: CW's ratings threshold seems to be about a 1.1 in the 18-34 demographic. The only shows below this that were not brought back were shows in at least their 4th seasons, including "Gilmore Girls", "Reba", "7th Heaven", and "Veronica Mars".
Fox: I'm surprised they brought "King of the Hill" back. It's a full 1.6 rating below any other Fox show brought back for 2007. Its 18-34 rating is fair, but "The Winner"'s rating was higher, both among 18-34s and the total population. Other that that, you need to have a 7.0 rating (2.6 18-34) or be a reality show to make it (which include America's Most Wanted, Cops, Trading Spouses, and Nanny 911).
NBC: The dividing line here is once again the 18-34 demographic. A rating over 2.7 means you make it. "The Office" does much better in the 18-34 demographics, garnering a 4.1 (which ranks it 28th). The only shows above 2.7 that weren't renewed were the aforementioned Studio 60, and "The Apprentice", which Donald Trump doesn't want to do anymore. The only shows below 2.7 that made it back are "Friday Night Lights", which someone at NBC must like, and the 8 showings of Dateline NBC that air (ok, maybe it's only 3).
edit: beaten in my explanation about "The Office". oh well.
Top 30 in 18-49: 1. American Idol results [12.3] 2. American Idol [12.0] T3. Grey's Anatomy [8.1] T3. House [8.1] 5. Desperate Housewives [6.9] 6. CSI [6.6] T7. NBC Sunday Night Football [6.4] T7. Heroes [6.4] 9. Lost [6.3] 10. Dancing with the Stars 3 [5.8] 11. Survivor: Cook Islands [5.5] T12. Dancing with the Stars 4 [5.4] T12. CSI Miami [5.4] T14. Dancing with the Stars 3 results [5.0] T14. Survivor: Fiji [5.0] T14. 24 [5.0] T17. Extreme Makeover Home Edition [4.9] T17. ER [4.9] 19. Dancing with the Stars 4 results [4.8] 20. Two and a Half Men [4.7] 21. Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? [4.6] 22. Rules of Engagement [4.5] T23. Deal or No Deal (Monday) [4.4] T23. October Road [4.4] T25: CSI: New York [4.3] T25. Brothers & Sisters [4.3] 27. Law & Order: SVU [4.2] T28. Without a Trace [4.1] T28. The Simpsons [4.1] T28. The Office [4.1] T28. Family Guy [4.1]
Another thing about "The Office". Look at that list of Top 30 18-34 year olds. Notice how few of those shows are comedies. "The Office" is the 3rd highest real comedy on the list. Only "Two And A Half Men" and "Rules Of Engagement" (which aired immediately after "Two And A Half Men") are more watched comedies. Everything else is game shows, reality tv, dramas, and that strange hybrid, Dramedy (or is Comada?).
It's kind of funny that for all of the hand-wringing that the critics did over Lost moving to a later timeslot and not 'connecting' with viewers due to the complicated plot, it's still the ninth-highest rated show on TV.
Where's Ugly Betty on the list? I thought it was a big enough hit to crack the top 28
The majority of the fans think that Spiderman and X-Men peaked at number 2 and number 3 sucked, so I'm not sure Avengers will be much different. In fact, movies in general don't usually have a good second sequel, even having one good sequel is rare.