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1. Batista
2. John Cena
3. Satoshi Kojima
4. Triple H
5. JBL
6. Kurt Angle
7. AJ Styles
8. Edge
9. Shelton Benjamin
10. Hiroyoshi Tenzan
11. Jeff Jarrett
12. Ultimo Guerrero
13. Chris Benoit
14. Rey Misterio Jr
15. Eddie Guerrero
16. Kenta Kobashi
17. Christopher Daniels
18. Mistico
19. Kane
20. Booker T
21. Tiger Mask IV
22. Samoa Joe
23. Petey Williams
24. Hijo Del Santo
25. Chris Jericho
26. Undertaker
27. Kensuke Sasaki
28. Monty Brown
29. Randy Orton
30. Christian
31. The Big Show
32. Naomichi Marufuji
33. Muhammad Hassan
34. Shawn Michaels
35. L.A. Park
36. Paul London
37. Abyss
38. Rey Bucanero
39. Jushin Liger
40. C.M. Punk
41. Carlito
42. Mitsuharu Misawa
43. Dr Wagner Jr
44. William Regal
45. Raven
46. Toshiaki Kawada
47. Hector Garza
48. Chavo Guerrero Jr
49. Tajiri
50. Ron Killings
51. Ric Flair
52. Shocker
53. Shijiro Otani
54. Matt Morgan
55. Bobby Rude
56. Eugene
57. Masa Chono
58. Jeff Hardy
59. Michael Shane
60. Eric Young
61. Elix Skipper
62. Austin Aries
63. Robert Conway
64. Perro Aguayo Jr
65. KENTA
66. Doug Basham
67. Chris Harris
68. Charlie Haas
69. Chris Sabin
70. Averno
71. James Storm
72. Danny Basham
73. Kaz Hayashi
74. Joey Mercury
75. The Hurricane
76. American Dragon
77. Mephisto
78. Hardcore Holly
79. Frankie Kazarian
80. Johnny Nitro
81. Spanky
82. Brent Albright
83. Gene Snitsky
84. Takeshi Rikioh
85. Negro Casas
86. Orlando Jordan
87. Spike Dudley
88. Simon Dean
89. Heidenreich
90. Chase Stevens
91. Matt Cappotelli
92. Rosey
93. Maven
94. Sylvan Grenier
95. Colt Cabana
96. Andy Douglas
97. Johnny Jeter
98. B.G. James
99. Keiji Muto
100. James Gibson
101. Donovan Morgan
102. Mr. Niebla
103. Alex Shelley
104. Tyson Tomko
105. Billy Kidman
106. Konnan

107. Jun Akiyama
108. Sho Funaki
109. Elijah Burke
110. Michael Modest
111. Mr. Aguila
112. Tenryu
113. Steve Corino
114. Tank Toland
115. Kid Kash
116. Chris Masters
117. Rene Dupree
118. Mark Jindrak
119. Shark Boy
120. Aaron Stevens
121. Sonjay Dutt
122. Tokyo Magnum
123. The Outlaw
124. Nigel Mcguinness
125. Daivari
126. Juvenud Guerrera
127. Chad Toland
128. Nunzio
129. Viscera
130. Atlantis
131. Koji Kanemoto
132. Antonio Thomas
133. Kenzo Suzuki
134. Steven Richards
135. Val Venis
136. Romeo Roselli
137. Scotty 2 Hotty
138. Doug Williams
139. Shannon Moore
140. Jimmy Rave
141. Akio
142. Oriental
143. D Lo Brown
144. Psicosis
145. Trevor Rhodes
146. Rocky Romero
147. Adam Pierce
148. Seven
149. CW Anderson
150. Jamal
151. Danny Inferno
152. Super Delphin
153. Garrison Cade
154. Abismo Negro
155. Blaster Lashley
156. Lance Hoyt
157. Rhino
158. Homicide
159. Taka Michinoku
160. Dos Caras Jr
161. Chad Collyer
162. Vampiro
163. Rikishi
164. Tatsuhito Takaiwa
165. Johnny swinger
166. Bison Smith
167. Black Warrior
168. Blue Panther
169. Sonny Siaki
170. Dick Togo
171. Ace Steel
172. Elektro
173. Low-Ki
174. Seth Skyfire
175. Giant Bernard
176. Jimmy Jacobs
177. Ricky Reyes
178. Taiyo Kea
179. Puma
180. Matt Stryker
181. Gedo
182. Latin Lover
183. Ray Gonzalez
184. Akira Taue
185. Simon Daimond
186. Harry Smith
187. Julio Dinero
188. Todd Shane
189. Skayde
190. Mike Shane
191. Cima
192. Danny Daniels
193. Jack Evans
194. Glamor Boy Shane
195. Steve Lewington
196. Osamu Nishimura
197. Alebrije
198. Hotstuff Hernandez
199. David Young
200. M Dogg 20
201. Tyson Dux
202. Kevin Northcutt
203. Josh Daniels
204. Eddie Colon
205. Yuji Nagata
206. Tony Kozina
207. BJ Whitmer
208. Chuck Palumbo
209. Ultimo Dragon
210. B Boy
211. Masada
212. Jinsei Shinzaki
213. John Walters
214. Dr X
215. Scott D'Amore
216. Mike Kruel
217. Ricky Banderas
218. Jay Lethal
219. Minoru Tanaka
220. Felino
221. Heavy Metal
222. Mike Mondo
223. Josh Prohibiton
224. Vance Nevada
225. Deuce Shade
226. Bronco
227. Blue Meanie
228. Dragon Kid
229. Tony Jones
230. TJ Wilson
231. Rodney Mack
232. Rodrick Strong
233. Sean Casey
234. Manabu Nakanishi
235. Tarzan Boy
236. Jerelle Clark
237. Slash Venom
238. Pantera
239. Masato Tanaka
240. Shane Ballard
241. Joe E Legend
242. Mike Quackenbush
243. Dean Jablonski
244. Toru Yano
245. Great Sasuke
246. Cody Hawk
247. Diamante
248. Shannon Ballard
249. Milano Collection AT
250. Frank Parker
251. Vinny Massaro
252. Mike Taylor
253. Rod Steel
254. Jado
255. Mac Johnson
256. Turbo
257. Alastar " A-1" Ralphz
258. Striker
259. Takashi Yoshida
260. D-Ray 3000
261. Minoru Fujita
262. Babi Slymm
263. Amazing Red
264. Apolo
265. Prince Nana
266. Mikey Batts
267. Predator
268. Chicano
269. Chet Jablonski
270. Gran Hamada
271. Webster Dauphiney
272. Eric Matlock
273. Chris Hamrick
274. Biggie Biggs
275. The Stro
276. Eric Alexander
277. Quiet Storm
278. Slyk Wagner Brown
279. Ken Anderson
280. Steve Madison
281. Tom Howard
282. Thunder
283. Arik Cannon
284. Arch Kincaid
285. Kevin Dunn
286. Onyx
287. Mana
288. Naphtali
289. Scotty Mac
290. Daniel Puder
291. Human Tornado
292. Juggernaut
293. Ray Gordy
294. Seth Shai
295. Vordell Walker
296. Steve Demarco
297. Brad Bradley
298. Alex Arion
299. Joel Maximo
300. Teddy Hart
301. Boomer Payne
302. Kirby Marcos
303. Tim Warcloud
304. Jose Maximo
305. Apocalypse
306. Tommy Williams
307. Ken Doane
308. Frank Murdoch
309. Da Beast
310. Mike Fox
311. Sterling James Keenan
312. Marty Wright
313. Rob Eckos
314. Jason Rumble
315. Dusty wolfe
316. Adam Firestorm
317. Quinn Magnum
318. Cru Jones
319. Brian Black
320. Andrew Ryker
321. Rico Suave
322. Michelle Starr
323. Robin Knightwing
324. J J Perez
325. Dennis Gregory
326. N8 Mattson
327. Fred Sampson
328. Steve Mack
329. El Nene
330. Chasyn Rance
331. Claudio Castagnoli
332. Danny Doring
333. Sedrick Strong
334. Joey Knight
335. Ladies Choice
336. Rory Fox
337. Vik Dalishus
338. Billy Bax
339. Lightning
340. Vito Thomaselli
341. Scotty Charisma
342. Zach Gowen
343. Nasdaq
344. Hangman Hughes
345. Mace
346. Axl Rotten
347. Dow Jones
348. Robbie Dawber
349. Bruce Steele
350. Sal Thomaselli
351. Hentai
352. Bamm Bamm Penders
353. KC Thunder
354. EC Negro
355. Mike tobin
356. Aaron Idol
357. Alyx Winters
358. Marc Ash
359. Lash Leroux
360. Rockin Rebel
361. John Rambo
362. Nikita Allanov
363. Japanese Pool Boy
364. Andy Baker
365. Dropkick Murphy
366. Greg Matthews
367. Derrick Heikirk
368. Tim Flowers
369. Bryan Logan
370. Apollo Kahn
371. Mace Mendoza
372. Delirious
373. Dru Onyx
374. Hallowicked
375. Devon Storm
376. Matt Logan
377. T Rantula
378. Lotus
379. Glen Osbourne
380. Balls Mahoney
381. Buff-E
382. Conrad Kennedy III
383. Diabolico
384. Mr Ooh La La
385. Quinson Valentino
386. Sebastian Dark
387. Shirley Doe
388. Brent Dail
389. Jigsaw
390. Hook Bomberry
391. Crazy J
392. Frankie Capone
393. Chris Taylor
394. Cheetah Master
395. Gran Akuma
396. CJ O'Doyle
397. Scottie Gash
398. Krazy K
399. Eddie Guapo
400. The Bouncer
401. Cody Steele
402. Shawn Patrick
403. George South Sr
404. Aden Chambers
405. Ryan O'reilly
406. J-Rocc
407. Glenn Spectre
408. Supreme Lee Great
409. Jeff Starr
410. Eddie Kingston
411. Greg Spitz
412. Don Basher
413. Mozart Fontaine
414. Huracan Castillo
415. Sexxxy Eddie
416. K-Pusha
417. Roman
418. Chase Del Monte
419. Tony Givens
420. Invader I
421. K-Murda
422. Dean Radford
423. Luiz Ortiz
424. PT Hussla
425. Shawn Osborne
426. Kevin Knight
427. JP Black
428. Johnny Maxx
429. Mike Dell
430. Indiana Kidd Jr
431. Brian Soscia
432. John Curse
433. J-Busta
434. Rod Steele
435. Eric Everlast
436. Larry Huntley
437. Scott Zenzen
438. DJ P ROC
439. Snatch Haggins
440. Mega
441. Billy Bart
442. Russell Simpson
443. Johnny Graham
444. Darin Childs
445. Shawn Christopher
446. Icarus
447. Justin Idol
448. Handsome Jimmy
449. JT Lightning
450. Franky the Mobster
451. Andre Lyonz
452. Kevin Baker
453. Jolly Roger
454. Charles Mercury
455. Tommy Suede
456. Gutter
457. Marcus Dillon
458. Danger
459. Daron Smythe
460. Leslie Leatherman
461. Mister Zero
462. Quinten Lee
463. Adam Booker
464. Sean Allen
465. Freak Nasty
466. Darkness Crabtree
467. Jack Thriller
468. Dexter Poindexter
469. Kevin Grace
470. Josh Cody
471. Shawn Cook
472. Shorty Smalls
473. Tony Golden
474. Nova Cain
475. Brian Danzig
476. Terry Alan
477. Powerhouse Hughes
478. Viper
479. Ultramantis Black
480. Bruiser Graham
481. Hellcat
482. Ric Gunner
483. Phil Atlas
484. Forsaken
485. Gino Martino
486. John Cabbie
487. Gotti
488. Will Christianson
489. Jimmy Cash
490. Brian Costello
491. Toy Dodson
492. Brother Clay
493. Eric Draven
494. Aaron Devil
495. Damian Dragon
496. Lord Zoltan
497. JV Insanity
498. CJ Summers
499. Bert Williams
500. Nick Nemeth


Now fight it out.

The top 20 ususally are pretty close to my guess everything else tends to be toss ups. Heck the whole list is toss up most times. Anyways, it is one of the only gauges we have on the wrestling industry other than us complaining about them not doing something right in some kind of storyline. Hey, Batista pulls out the number one spot, John Cena at number 2 not to big of surpises there. So...anyways I need to run out and buy the magazine now to read the fun snipits they write about how they got the ranking.

Just for reference to this years list and what CRZ said last year: http://the-w.com/thread.php/id=22540

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More W history: http://the-w.com/thread.php/id=22027

(edited by jwrestle on 28.8.05 2131)

(edited by jwrestle on 6.9.05 0010)


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Get over it, please. Thanks



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#3 Posted on
So is this Joe Theismann's, or Mel Kiper Jr.'s list? And I need to know if they take keeper leagues into account for their rankings.

*looks shifty*
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Hey, good, so I can do this.

PWI Rankings for Mexico based wrestlers, by year
                '05  '04  '03
Ultimo Guerrero 12 N/R 141
Mistico 18 N/R N/R
Hijo Del Santo 24 14 14
L.A. Park 35 38 52
Rey Bucanero 38 N/R 84
Dr Wagner Jr 43 162 55
Hector Garza 47 N/R 36
Shocker 52 67 27
Perro Aguayo Jr 64 102 N/R
Averno 70 N/R N/R
Mephisto 77 N/R N/R
Negro Casas 85 144 197
Mr. Niebla 102 N/R 41
Mr. Aguila (2) 111 86 N/R
Juvi 126 52 90
Atlantis 130 97 N/R
Psicosis (1) 144 70 134
Abismo Negro 154 91 N/R
Dos Caras Jr 160 N/R N/R
Vampiro 162 N/R N/R
Black Warrior 167 115 N/R
Blue Panther 168 127 N/R
Latin Lover 182 46 94
Skayde 189 201 N/R
Dr X 214 N/R N/R
Felino 220 200 112
Heavy Metal 221 184 109
Bronco (3) 226 153 96
Tarzan Boy 235 N/R N/R
Pantera 238 N/R N/R


1 - I assume they mean Nicho here.
2 - Aguila was listed as Essa Rios in '04
3 - as Black Tiger in previous years
I got lazy and left off everyone who didn't get voted this year.

I'd like to know who's the Mexican source (Quack?) so he can tell me why Niebla - who's been for months and had slipped far of late - is on the list. Between that and the amazing rediscovery of GdI and others after missing '04, I guess they just went back to '03's list for any name who they heard complaints about

The Infernal Traitors are so overranked, you think they were reading my stuff.

I wish they'd rate more than 30 guys but I don't expect they will; they are doing a few more each year.

This list is a good for - a list of 500 names and little else, I think.

(edited by thecubsfan on 28.8.05 2104)


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Averno and Mephisto in the Top 100? Must be a pretty bad year for wrestling.



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291. Human Tornado

My new favorite indy guy. He's got a funny, funny schtick.



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380. Balls Mahoney = lowest name on the list that I actually recognize.

This thing is getting rediculous. They need to cut it down to 100 or 150 or something.




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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    380. Balls Mahoney = lowest name on the list that I actually recognize.

    This thing is getting rediculous. They need to cut it down to 100 or 150 or something.


While I've heard of Balls Mahoney, I don't think I've ever seen one of his matches. I'd have to go down to 359 to find Lash Laroux, once a WCW jobber.

500 is way too many, especially since 158 of them come after a one-legged guy.

Why no Hulk Hogan?

Why no Amish Roadkill?
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    Originally posted by too-old-now
    While I've heard of Balls Mahoney, I don't think I've ever seen one of his matches. I'd have to go down to 359 to find Lash Laroux, once a WCW jobber.
You didn't miss much. But Lash Laroux -- jobber? He was Corporal Cajun!

I'm proud to say I've heard of No. 500, Nick Nemeth, some guy from OVW who may or may not be a WWE developmental talent.



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Devon Storm's 375? Does he even wrestle anymore? Thought he was a physical therapist... probably just takes the occasional indy gig. (I know this came up somewhere a little while ago.)



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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    380. Balls Mahoney = lowest name on the list that I actually recognize.

    This thing is getting rediculous. They need to cut it down to 100 or 150 or something.


Yeah, I recognize plenty of names in the 300s and 400s, but that's from EWR.

The highest number of a wrestler I've actually seen a match of is: 414. Sexxxy Eddie. Odd that there is no 415...

He's a garbage wrestler from various feds including CZW. He made a name for himself in a Tournament of Death where, after accidentally slicing an artery in his arm, he drank the blood spurting out.

I'm sure his mother is proud.
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361. John Rambo

Anyone know by chance if this is the same John Rambo that wrestled in the Portland area in the early 90's?



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    Originally posted by CRZ
    Get over it, please. Thanks


Just one thing... Marufuji should NOT be below A.J. Styles on ANY publication's list of top wrestlers. He just shouldn't.

Okay, I've said my piece. Now I'm over it.





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"The Real Deal" Rod Steele is at 434? You have to be an OVW fan to understand why that's just funny. I mean, I love the guy, but he's not even in the top 500 JOBBERS list.

That said, he still should have been higher than Dan Puder or Zach Gowen.

Ken Anderson/Mr. Ken Kennedy (Kennedy) is 279. You'll be laughing about that by the end of the year, trust me. Just like the fact that Paul Birchall isn't on there.



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I still remember Steele getting a big push by the fans a couple of years back. I think people just loved him because he really was just a three-moves guy (that's still two more than Puder) in a 500-high-flying-moves world. He would have a match, and people would scream in joy with every mediocre bodyslam he did ... meanwhile, Cornette would be behind the desk telling Dean, "I don't understand it. I don't understand it."

Then he started getting airtime on the show and that's when the fanbase died out. I don't think he's had a single match in OVW in over a year now.

Oddly enough, that same fanbase is now doing the same thing for Melissa Coates instead at the OVW shows.
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I think the real issue here is that Batista and Cena are the top two. I thought this list put a pretty high priority on workrate.



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    Originally posted by PWI
    33. Muhammad Hassan
    40. C.M. Punk

It's like I don't even want to look at you from across the room at a party anymore PWI...if you're going to be doing crazy drunken antics like this we are through.



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Where is Tinieblas Jr?!



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Claudio is way too low.



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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    I think the real issue here is that Batista and Cena are the top two. I thought this list put a pretty high priority on workrate.
Given that JBL is #5, and Benoit is down there at a lowly #13, I'd guess not.
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