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| #1 Posted on 25.7.03 1003.44 | Thank god Chris Rock's hosting, because otherwise, this show's gonna SUCK~! They haven't announced any performers yet, but look at those nominees! And it ain't like Johnny Cash is going to perform and save the day, either.
Video Of The Year 50 Cent, "In Da Club" Eminem, "Lose Yourself" Johnny Cash, "Hurt" Justin Timberlake, "Cry Me a River" Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Work It"
Best Male Video 50 Cent, "In Da Club" Eminem, "Lose Yourself" John Mayer, "Your Body is a Wonderland" Johnny Cash, "Hurt" Justin Timberlake, "Cry Me a River"
Best Female Video Avril Lavigne, "I'm With You" Beyonce f/ Jay-Z, "Crazy in Love" Christina Aguilera, "Dirrty" Jennifer Lopez, "I'm Glad" Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Work It"
Best New Artist In A Video 50 Cent, "In Da Club" All-American Rejects, "Swing, Swing" Evanescence f/ Paul McCoy, "Bring Me to Life" Kelly Clarkson, "Miss Independent" Sean Paul, "Get Busy" Simple Plan, "Addicted"
Breakthrough Video Coldplay, "The Scientist" Floetry, "Floetic" Kenna, "Freetime" Queens of the Stone Age, "No One Knows" Sum 41, "The Hell Song"
Best Group Video B2K f/ P. Diddy, "Bump, Bump, Bump" Coldplay, "The Scientist" Good Charlotte, "Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous" The Donnas, "Take It Off" The White Stripes, "Seven Nation Army"
Best Rap Video 2 Pac f/ Nas, "Thugz Mansion" 50 Cent, "In Da Club" Eminem, "Lose Yourself" Ludacris f/ Mystikal, "Move B***h" Nas, "I Can"
Best R&B Video Aaliyah, "Miss You" Ashanti, "Rock Wit U (Awww Baby)" Beyonce f/ Jay-Z, "Crazy in Love" Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland, "Dilemma" R. Kelly, "Ignition Remix"
Best Hip-Hop Video Busta Rhymes f/ Mariah Carey, "I Know What You Want" Jay-Z f/ Beyonce, "'03 Bonnie & Clyde" Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Work It" Nelly, "Hot in Herre" Snoop Dogg f/ Pharrell & Uncle Charlie Wilson, "Beautiful"
Best Dance Video Christina Aguilera, "Dirrty" Jennifer Lopez, "I'm Glad" Justin Timberlake, "Rock Your Body" Mya, "Your Love Is Like...Wo" Sean Paul, "Get Busy"
Best Rock Video Evanescence f/ Paul McCoy, "Bring Me to Life" Good Charlotte, "Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous" Linkin Park, "Somewhere I Belong" Metallica, "St. Anger" The White Stripes, "Seven Nation Army"
Best Pop Video Avril Lavigne, "Sk8er Boi" Christina Aguilera, "Dirrty" Justin Timberlake, "Cry Me a River" Kelly Clarkson, "Miss Independent" No Doubt, "Underneath It All"
Best Video From A Film Britney Spears f/ Pharrell of N.E.R.D., "Boys (Co-Ed Remix)" ("Austin Powers in Goldmember") Eminem, "Lose Yourself" ("8 Mile") JC Chasez, "Blowing Me Up (With Her Love)" ("Drumline") Madonna, "Die Another Day" ("Die Another Day")
Best Direction In A Video Coldplay (Director: Jamie Thraves), "The Scientist" Johnny Cash (Director: Mark Romanek), "Hurt" Justin Timberlake (Director: Francis Lawrence), "Cry Me a River" Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott (Director: Dave Meyers/Missy Elliott), "Work It" Sum 41 (Director: Marc Klasfeld), "The Hell Song"
Best Choreography In A Video Beyonce f/ Jay-Z, "Crazy in Love" Christina Aguilera, "Dirrty" Jennifer Lopez, "I'm Glad" Justin Timberlake, "Rock Your Body" Mya, "Your Love Is Like...Wo"
Best Special Effects In A Video Floetry, "Floetic" Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Work It" Queens of the Stone Age, "Go With the Flow" Radiohead, "There There" The White Stripes, "Seven Nation Army"
Best Art Direction In A Video Jennifer Lopez, "I'm Glad" Johnny Cash, "Hurt" Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Work It" Queens of the Stone Age, "Go With the Flow" Radiohead, "There There"
Best Editing In A Video Johnny Cash, "Hurt" Kenna, "Freetime" Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Work It" Radiohead, "There There" The White Stripes, "Seven Nation Army"
Best Cinematography In A Video Johnny Cash, "Hurt" Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Work It" No Doubt, "Underneath It All" Radiohead, "There There"
MTV2 Award AFI, "Girl's Not Grey" Common f/ Mary J. Blige, "Come Close" Interpol, "PDA" Queens of the Stone Age, "No One Knows" The Roots f/ Cody Chesnutt, "The Seed 2.0"
Viewer's Choice 50 Cent, "In Da Club" Beyonce f/ Jay-Z, "Crazy in Love" Eminem, "Lose Yourself" Good Charlotte, "Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous" Justin Timberlake, "Cry Me a River" Kelly Clarkson, "Miss Independent"
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| #2 Posted on 25.7.03 1013.34 | You never know. Perhaps they could try another resurrection this year and close the show with a Trent Reznor/Johnny Cash duet on "Hurt"
And I have a sneaking suspicion that might win best video. It's got that "This Note's For You" we didn't ever play this but that's because we suck and here's our tacit admission of our suckiness thing happening for me. If these were real awards it would win every category it's in, as I feel a case is there for calling it the best music video ever in term of using the song and the images as one perfect whole.
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| #3 Posted on 25.7.03 1149.26 | Instant Rating: 9.00 | Yeah, that video for Hurt is damned excellent. How anyone could consider a retrospective on the life of Cash as inferior to your run-of-the-mill, girls-in-skimpy-clothing music video is beyond me. You can watch Skinemax if you're into softcore porn. Or "GGW: Doggystyle," if you can't separate your porno from your rappers.
And Cash was wheelchair bound at his wife's funeral, so I don't think he's gonna be performing anymore. I'm surprised the man has survived June's death this long as it is, given his chronic health problems and general love of the woman.
Man... Cash rules.
And as a side note, what is Linkin Park doing in the rock category? It's really lost all meaning. Anything with a guitar in it is rock now.
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| #4 Posted on 25.7.03 1158.44 | Regarding Johnny being able to perform, he did sing at the Carter Family Fold last month. (home.hamptonroads.com) so if MTV were to have the willingness to let him upstage all the crap that's out there, he probably could do one song.
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| #5 Posted on 25.7.03 1247.07 | As huge a Cash fan as I am, I just can't see him fitting into the MTV award show. I think half, if not more, of their audiance comes straight from the pop bullshit TRL. They are going to see Cash come on stage and tune out. Thinking who is this old man. Although Cash performing would be the one way to get me to watch.
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| #6 Posted on 25.7.03 1504.17 | IF Johnny Cash was able to get up on stage and play a song, and I'm sure they'd ask him to play "Hurt", it would be very funny for him to screw over MTV and play "Cocaine Blues" instead. God bless that man.
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| #7 Posted on 25.7.03 1504.30 | Renegade,Mistress of Darkness says:
If Johnny Cash does not get a single award, this world has truly gone too hell. And I'm not even saying this because he sang a NIN song, the video was probably the best I've seen in the past year. I would mark out if Cash come out and did a song.

Vh1 and their 100 Sexiest Artists list can go to hell for not having Trent Reznor on there!
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| #8 Posted on 25.7.03 2240.22 | These are my picks (NOT predictions, because there's no way I can wrap my head around the MTV way of thinking LoL). Who I like from each category.
Video Of The Year Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
Best Male Video Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
Best Female Video Avril Lavigne, "I'm With You"
Best New Artist In A Video Evanescence f/ Paul McCoy, "Bring Me to Life"
Breakthrough Video Coldplay, "The Scientist"
Best Group Video Coldplay, "The Scientist"
Best Rap Video Eminem, "Lose Yourself"
Best R&B Video Aaliyah, "Miss You"
Best Hip-Hop Video Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Work It"
Best Dance Video Sean Paul, "Get Busy"
Best Rock Video Evanescence f/ Paul McCoy, "Bring Me to Life"
Best Pop Video Avril Lavigne, "Sk8er Boi"
Best Video From A Film Eminem, "Lose Yourself" ("8 Mile")
Best Direction In A Video Coldplay (Director: Jamie Thraves), "The Scientist"
Best Choreography In A Video Mya, "Your Love Is Like...Wo"
Best Special Effects In A Video The White Stripes, "Seven Nation Army"
Best Art Direction In A Video Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
Best Editing In A Video The White Stripes, "Seven Nation Army
Best Cinematography In A Video Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
MTV2 Award Queens of the Stone Age, "No One Knows"
Viewer's Choice Good Charlotte, "Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous"
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| #9 Posted on 25.7.03 2337.44 | Just my 50 cents!
Video Of The Year Eminem, "Lose Yourself"
Rembrandt
Best Male Video Eminem, "Lose Yourself"
Oh father I have sinned...Jesus Christ
Best Female Video Avril Lavigne, "I'm With You"
She Invented Punk RAWK
Best New Artist In A Video Kelly Clarkson, "Miss Independent"
Paula Abdul CANT be wrong
Breakthrough Video Sum 41, "The Hell Song"
They took punk RAWK to the next level
Best Group Video Good Charlotte, "Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous"
Taking a stand against the MAN!
Best Rap Video 50 Cent, "In Da Club"
Because Jesus Christ is too good for an award that only encompasses one genre
Best R&B Video Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland, "Dilemma"
hoot hoot
Best Hip-Hop Video Nelly, "Hot in Herre"
So take your clothes off!!! Get It???
Best Dance Video Jennifer Lopez, "I'm Glad"
SHAKE MORE OF THAT BOOTEY
Best Rock Video Good Charlotte, "Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous"
These guys are Unparalleled, truly the definition of what Rock is and what it has striven to be for forty years.
Best Pop Video Justin Timberlake, "Cry Me a River"
Oh Justin, you looked so cute with the curls, why OH WHY did you cut them off. Sampson be damned, your still my American Idol!
Best Video From A Film Eminem, "Lose Yourself" ("8 Mile")
I know it degrading for 'Em' to have to take this award. But the whole idea of having a soundtrack tell the story of a movie is an artistic breakthrough. It also lends credence to the Watchmaker Argument!
Best Direction In A Video Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott (Director: Dave Meyers/Missy Elliott), "Work It"
Yo Yo Yo
Best Choreography In A Video Christina Aguilera, "Dirrty"
She so good, she puts Jane Fonda's Aerobics videos to shame
Best Special Effects In A Video Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Work It"
Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo
Best Art Direction In A Video Jennifer Lopez, "I'm Glad" Some more ass????? So am I
Best Editing In A Video Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
Who is this guy? Seeing as he is up for about 5 awards, I would find it in my heart to give him this meaningless and sure to be non-televised award!
Best Cinematography In A Video Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Work It" Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo
MTV2 Award Common f/ Mary J. Blige, "Come Close"
Talk about the Mudhens against the Yankees, this is the only name I recognize from the bunch.
Viewer's Choice Eminem, "Lose Yourself"
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| #10 Posted on 26.7.03 0027.29 | Nag... nice try. Keep working on it, though.
As for the MTV2 award, if Interpol doesn't win, there'll be Viagra Drivers for everyone that voted against 'em. Belee dat.
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| #11 Posted on 26.7.03 0103.49 | Of course these are MTV awards, what did you expect OFB? It's not about the art or even the song, it's about what the kidz like and how cool the video is. Which I don't mind at all, really.
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| #12 Posted on 26.7.03 0232.45 |
Originally posted by Excalibur05 Of course these are MTV awards, what did you expect OFB? It's not about the art or even the song, it's about what the kidz like and how cool the video is.
See, but some people might say that that is what is wrong with putting Cash in the list of nominees. Seriously, WHY is he there? Is the "Video of the Year" the technically superior video or is it the video to the most popular song? It's either one or the other, not both. You need to have a basis on which to judge. "Hurt" and "Cry Me a River" were not and/or will not judged on the same basis. Is it the most played video? The technical marvel? The technical marvel of the most played? PICK ONE.
It's kind of like People Magazine and their annual list of "Best Looking People". We all know they mainly mean Best Looking CELEBRITIES, but they always end up tossing in some totally random people. Like that adds credibility to their list. They should ONLY include celebrities unless they feel compelled to jump in a van and take a good look at EVERY PERSON IN THE WORLD. Otherwise they should change the title of the piece to "Really Good Looking Random People." Likewise, MTV should just stick to their rotation's songs unless they feel compelled to watch every video made in 2003. Because while heavily played, technically I doubt "In Da Club" is a top 5 video of the year.
While the Cash video itself is powerful, it's not "cool". And was anyone blown away by the technical perfection of the "Lose Yourself" video? No (or at least I doubt). And I know that this is just an MTV awards show (ie, meaningless) and that 50 Cent probably already has the award on his mantle, but it's kind of insulting.
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| #13 Posted on 26.7.03 1332.00 |
Originally posted by Joseph Ryder
While the Cash video itself is powerful, it's not "cool".
Bite your tongue, sir.
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| #14 Posted on 26.7.03 1422.55 | "Seven Nation Army" and "Go With the Flow" are the only two songs listed even worth listening to...
And OT, drjayphd...your new threat of Viagra Drivers for those who piss you off is REALLY making me laugh! :)
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| #15 Posted on 26.7.03 1532.20 |
Originally posted by Bullitt "Seven Nation Army" and "Go With the Flow" are the only two songs listed even worth listening to...
And OT, drjayphd...your new threat of Viagra Drivers for those who piss you off is REALLY making me laugh! :)
Thanks... I just had the move's name stuck in my head for a while, then looked it up. It is a pretty cool move, from what I read (but I haven't seen it in action).
And "Go With the Flow" wasn't nominated, but the video was pretty good. "No One Knows" was fine enough.
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| #16 Posted on 26.7.03 1609.48 | UNITED WE STAND
Video Of The Year Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
Best Male Video Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
Best Female Video Beyonce f/ Jay-Z, "Crazy in Love"
Best New Artist In A Video Evanescence f/ Paul McCoy, "Bring Me to Life"
Breakthrough Video Sum 41, "The Hell Song"
Best Group Video The Donnas, "Take It Off"
Best Rap Video 2 Pac f/ Nas, "Thugz Mansion"
Best R&B Video Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland, "Dilemma"
Best Hip-Hop Video Snoop Dogg f/ Pharrell & Uncle Charlie Wilson, "Beautiful"
Best Dance Video Mya, "Your Love Is Like...Wo"
Best Rock Video Linkin Park, "Somewhere I Belong"
Best Pop Video Kelly Clarkson, "Miss Independent"
Best Video From A Film Eminem, "Lose Yourself" ("8 Mile")
Best Direction In A Video Johnny Cash (Director: Mark Romanek), "Hurt"
Best Choreography In A Video Mya, "Your Love Is Like...Wo"
Best Special Effects In A Video Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott, "Work It"
Best Art Direction In A Video Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
Best Editing In A Video Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
Best Cinematography In A Video Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
MTV2 Award The Roots f/ Cody Chesnutt, "The Seed 2.0"
Viewer's Choice Eminem, "Lose Yourself"
Those are my picks.. and some notes..
The White Stripes song is great, but the video is the biggest head-ache inducing piece of shit I've ever seen.
I know, I didn't vote over Johnny Cash in anything, but IMO, "Hurt" was the best video this decade... I bought American IV twice just to get the DVD with the video.
And Jay, Interpol sucks man... it's a fact :)

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| #17 Posted on 26.7.03 1627.39 |
Originally posted by drjayphd
Originally posted by Bullitt "Seven Nation Army" and "Go With the Flow" are the only two songs listed even worth listening to...
And OT, drjayphd...your new threat of Viagra Drivers for those who piss you off is REALLY making me laugh! :)
Thanks... I just had the move's name stuck in my head for a while, then looked it up. It is a pretty cool move, from what I read (but I haven't seen it in action). 
That move is in Smackdown: Shut Your Mouth. It's listed as the Magnum Driver. (Since it's Magnum Tokyo's finisher in Toryumon.)
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| #18 Posted on 27.7.03 2322.39 | Instant Rating: 5.54 | I remember back when I used to really enjoy watching the MTVVMAs, back in the mid 1990's. This was before the onslaught of teen pop and carefully marketed rap hit, and thus the show featured popular artists that were also, y'know, GOOD. The best video award used to go to the videos that were actually innovative (i.e. the Beasties, Smashing Pumpkins, Peter Gabriel), and not just to who sold the most.
Excuse my whiteness, but there are seperate categories for Best Rap, Best Hip-Hop and Best R&B videos? WTF?
If there's any justice, Cash and the White Stripes will clean up.
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| #19 Posted on 27.7.03 2353.32 |
Originally posted by drjayphd And "Go With the Flow" wasn't nominated, but the video was pretty good. "No One Knows" was fine enough.
Best Special Effects In A Video
Queens of the Stone Age, "Go With the Flow"
Probably my favorite video on the entire list of nominees...
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| #20 Posted on 28.7.03 1315.22 | Oops. Yeah, I'm a moron. Who directed it, anyway? I've only seen the video on Fuse, and they don't mention directors.
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