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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41

What a great recovery after the horrible Charlie episode last week.

Finally, the beginnings of a real heel stable.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.88
I kept waiting for Charlie to pull out one of the guns and shoot Sawyer to make sure that the secret is kept. Given the nature of their plan, I'm surprised either of these guys will trust the other.

Given how Jack's hair has morphed throughout his flashbacks, I'm glad that they waited to do Sawyer's next flashback once he could cut his hair.

I loved how right after Kate told Sawyer to go warn Locke, Sawyer had the "the trick to a con is to get the other person to want to do what you want them to do" flashback.

So Sawyer's come across Jack's dad and Kate's mom. Interesting.

I find it interesting that this season they seem to be undoing alot of the redemption people had found on the island last season. Sawyer has regained his evil outcast status, and Charlie is once again a reviled drug user (even though he isn't using, which is a great touch!)

I hate how deceptive the previews are. If its not the baby floating on the water in a dream sequence, its Sun being kidnapped but not by the Others. That said, next week's ep looks insane! (but they always do!)

There's that manuscript I've heard rumours about. Hooray for multimedia marketing!

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.36
I missed the preview for next week...can someone give me a recap of it?



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.97
    Originally posted by odessasteps
    Finally, the beginnings of a real heel stable.


The nWo theme should totally play anytime Sawyer and Charlie show up anywhere.

I think this episode more than anything solidified my feeling that Sawyer is probably the best-developed and most interesting character on the island. I love, too, how even by doing something so completely dickish, you had sympathy for him and at least understood his motivation. Ideally, that's how you're supposed to write someone who could potentially be a villain, although that's not always executed convincingly.

Additionally, tonight's episode made Charlie's character that much more interesting, and I love how he's becoming the go-to creepy guy whose primary motivation in life is to ruin Locke as he feels Locke ruined him. It also solidifed my feeling that he'll be in the sand by the end of the season.

    Originally posted by geemoney
    I missed the preview for next week...can someone give me a recap of it?


Just from memory - They're in the jungle and find someone trapped inside of a net. The trapped individual is a complete stranger. The castaways are paranoid (rightfully so given past similar events) that it's one of The Others. The recap closes with a tease that Sayid is going to torture him in order to get the answers...well, answers he thinks he's going to get.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.75
Definitely one of the better episodes of LOST, up there with Eko's flashback. Got to love the look on Locke and Jack's faces after Sawyer made his entrance. Charlie reveals that he's pretty freaking worthless.

Anyway, I actually liked the way the writers threw in some references that most viewers will miss. Hurley and Sayid listening to Glenn Miller is kind of funny because Miller disappeared in a plane crash. Locke holding the copy of Occurence at Owl Creek Bridge is interesting because the end of the story is a total swerve. The screenplay Hurley was reading was by Gary Troup, who's name is an anagram for purgatory.

As long as they stay away from Jack, Kate, Claire and/or Charlie flashbacks, the show is pretty damn solid...

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.11
    Originally posted by Deputy Marshall


      Originally posted by geemoney
      I missed the preview for next week...can someone give me a recap of it?


    Just from memory - They're in the jungle and find someone trapped inside of a net. The trapped individual is a complete stranger. The castaways are paranoid (rightfully so given past similar events) that it's one of The Others. The recap closes with a tease that Sayid is going to torture him in order to get the answers...well, answers he thinks he's going to get.

    (edited by Deputy Marshall on 9.2.06 0138)


Also it appears by next weeks trailer that Jack forces Locke to let the countdown timer run down too zero to show him that nothing will happen and it's all B.S.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.86
    Originally posted by Kevintripod
      Originally posted by Deputy Marshall


        Originally posted by geemoney
        I missed the preview for next week...can someone give me a recap of it?


      Just from memory - They're in the jungle and find someone trapped inside of a net. The trapped individual is a complete stranger. The castaways are paranoid (rightfully so given past similar events) that it's one of The Others. The recap closes with a tease that Sayid is going to torture him in order to get the answers...well, answers he thinks he's going to get.

      (edited by Deputy Marshall on 9.2.06 0138)


    Also it appears by next weeks trailer that Jack forces Locke to let the countdown timer run down too zero to show him that nothing will happen and it's all B.S.


Nobody's mentioning the best part of the preview...the thing least likely to be misinterpreted by everybody...


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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.76
Sawyer had become too much of a sympathetic character over the first half of the season and last night's episode allowed him to get his edge back. It also set up a 3 way power struggle between Sawyer, Locke & Jack. I liked how he used Charlie as his henchman and you know it is only a metter of time before Sawyer turns on Charlie as well. I look forward to Sayid turning back to his Republican Guard side and I wonder where does Eko fall into all of the goings on - he could be the player that tips the scale in someone's favor. As it is playing out, the Others don't have to do a thing as they sit back and watch the survivors slowly implode.

Is it next Wednesday yet ?



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.93
I don't understand all the hate for Charlie...I really think he's one of the more fleshed out characters on the show.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81
    Originally posted by Bullitt
    I don't understand all the hate for Charlie...I really think he's one of the more fleshed out characters on the show.


Fleshed out indeed, but fleshed out in such a way that I really want him to be the next one who is found face down in the sand. Charlie really irritates me. Him "turning to the dark side" was awesome, very well done, and makes him interesting again. But I still would love to see him killed off.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.76

    Originally posted by dunkndollaz
    As it is playing out, the Others don't have to do a thing as they sit back and watch the survivors slowly implode.

    Is it next Wednesday yet ?


That's what we were thinking, too. The Others don't really need to do anything. You give any group of people the situation these survivors are facing and there is bound to be conflict and turmoil. I thought last night's show was quite well done. And I knew I had seen that waitress before but I couldn't place her!





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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
I just got thinking about something from a previous thread/previous episode (The W)...
    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    Though it's not part of the Lost TV show canon, everybody noticed that Friendly quoted Alvar Hanso, right ("From the dawn of our species, Man has been blessed with curiosity.")?


One thing I can't figure. Locke is Mr. Perceptive, and seems to pick up on everything. If there is one guy that I figured watching the orientation video hundreds of times, it is Locke....but he didn't pick up on Mr. Friendly's quoting of Hanso?



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.86
    Originally posted by jfkfc
    I just got thinking about something from a previous thread/previous episode (The W)...
      Originally posted by Mr Shh
      Though it's not part of the Lost TV show canon, everybody noticed that Friendly quoted Alvar Hanso, right ("From the dawn of our species, Man has been blessed with curiosity.")?


    One thing I can't figure. Locke is Mr. Perceptive, and seems to pick up on everything. If there is one guy that I figured watching the orientation video hundreds of times, it is Locke....but he didn't pick up on Mr. Friendly's quoting of Hanso?


I made the original comment thinking that the quote was never spoken on the show itself. I'm basing that only on my spotty memory, so I may be wrong - but, I was sure that the only time we've heard or read the quote (before Mr. Friendly spoke it) was on the Hanso website.
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