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I think the thread icon says it all. Regarding the possibility of dividing PPV's into 4 RAW, 4 SD, and 4 joint:


    Taken from 1wrestling.com by way of 411
    Vince McMahon apparently decided to go forward with the PPV idea after the recent RAW house show in Madison Square Garden. On the show, Triple H was injured and could not face Brock Lesnar in the main event. He was replaced by Team Angle which drew boos from the crowd. McMahon believes that the fans reacted negatively because a Smackdown main event was headlining a RAW show, and they came to see RAW not Smackdown.


PLEASE tell me they're making that up. I honestly hope no one could be THAT delusional.

EDIT: I should mention that the report goes on to mention in the next sentence that most believe the reaction was for the bait-and-switch of advertising HHH in the main and not delivering.

(edited by drjayphd on 20.2.03 1844)


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Can we make up our minds whether fans care about HHH or not?

Maybe the fans booed because Team Angle has heel heat?
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#3 Posted on
It wasn't just the bait-and-switch that pissed people off, it should be noted. (I was in the crowd that night.) The replacement match -- Lesnar vs. Team Angle -- started out with a good but long mat sequence between Lesnar and Benjamin. No matter how good it is, trying matwork in front of a crowd that expects more overt action is always dicey -- and trying it in front of a crowd that's already annoyed is just asking for it; the "Boring" chants started early. To add insult to injury, the final part, Lesnar vs. Angle, was about two minutes long and half of it was spent with Lesnar lying in the ankle lock. That's not exactly the most satisfying of main events.

Regardless, Vince is nuts if he thinks the crowd turned on the match just because it was Smackdown, not Raw.

(edited by Shem the Penman on 20.2.03 1907)

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love you land of the pilgrims' and so forth oh
say can you see by the dawn's early my
country tis of centuries come and go
and are no more what of it we should worry
in every language even deafanddumb
thy sons acclaim your glorious name by gorry
by jingo by gee by gosh by gum
why talk of beauty what could be more beaut-
iful than these heroic happy dead
who rushed like lions to the roaring slaughter
they did not stop to think they died instead
then shall the voice of liberty be mute?"

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I think the idea is brilliant, and it is one I have been hoping for since they started the split. Why you may ask? Simple, I am from the old school train of thought. Well, not too old, but old enough that I remember and enjoyed the fact that there were only 4 PPV's a year. Unevenly spaced yes, but there wasn't one every month. They acutely built up to PPV matches, shit maybe sometimes for too long, but the fact is the PPV matches actually meant something. The monthly PPV's worked out allright during the War years, but clearly they are creativly on a noose and they need a change.

Do PPV's really seem special anymore? Is it something you remember? No, at least for me it isn't. This idea gives them 8 weeks, not 4 to build for a PPV. Weather or not they utilize the extra time, well that's very debatable. Will Kunter bitch because of 4 less big pay offs a year? Yeah! But, if they pull this out, it could very well help the booking if done correctly. And make for a better product. Less load, less presure to get a big storyline out every week, and possibly more time to spend developing the younger guys, since you won't nessecarly have to have the big 5 on every segment to build for the Main!

Another idea; (and I know I am going to get flamed, baked, and shat down the hole for this one) would be to bring back the enhancement guys. Yes, you heard me right. They have exusted every damn combination to death. I mean, it deja vu every damn night. My idea would be to throw 3 good matches on each card, 4 or 5 prelim matches. And spend the rest of the time on interviews and angles. This way, when you do see Benoit or Angel its special. This way, you never see monster heels get beat, so when they do get beat. Hey, it's an event.





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Nag, great ideas. Especially the jobber concept... they brought it back for the lower shows, but I don't think it should be THAT much. Maybe more along the lines of 1996 than 1992.

But yes, they NEED to break up the PPV schedule a bit. They don't need to go every month to compete with anyone, and they need to slow down enough to build better angles.



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#6 Posted on
They had 8 shows between PPV's back before the roster split, and all they tended to do was wait until the last four shows (two weeks before the PPV) to start booking the PPV angles. As much as I agree that they need to break up the schedule, and would like to see 8 weeks or so between PPV's, I don't think the writers are in the right mindset for it.



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I won't make no comment on Gerwitz, but as for Heyman, he was notorious for dragging things along until he felt the time was right for a proper pay off. As he did so with Taz/Sabu build, Dreamer/Raven fued, and the RVD world title push (which didn't come) If Paul E could sell Raven and Dreamer for almost 2 years, damn well I might add, i'm sure he could work out something for 2 months.



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So since WWE has a few patriotic storylines (well, one that I can think of going on currently), they shouldn't be pushing Randy Orton in a storyline that doesn't have anything to do with patriotism because of his past?
- Dexley's Midnight Jogger, WWE Hypocrisy (2003)
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