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|  #21 Posted on 21.2.04 1247.03 | Instant Rating: 5.15 | Originally posted by oldschoolhero
"Listen, I'm using numebrs and facts to back up my arguement, and all anyone else has been able to bring back at me is they "think" this or that about the movie industry. Well, I work in the movie industry, and am using the same forecasts studio experts are looking at, and they all say the same thing. The Rundown was a moderate success. This is what Hollywood is looking at. This is why The Rock is getting paid big money for upcoming movies."
Listen to this man, people. Studios DO look at DVD/video sales/rentals as a major source of income. They're what turned Fight Club from flop to hit, they're what got sequels commisioned for Hulk and LXG. They are HUGELY important.
And, as has also been pointed out, the film has yet to be release din Europe, which is easily one of the largest markets outside of the US and could see the film double its theatrical B.O. And that's WITHOUT its ancillary sales. Please stop banging on basing your posts on half-baked assumptions.
My one problem with that is he's not figuring in all the costs associated with DVD/video sales/rentals and the overseas release of the movie costs and advertising. That's not part of the $85 million dollar budget. The $85 million was for the movie production and North American release.
I'm not saying the film won't end up making money but if it does the same cost/revenue ratio that it did in the US in these other countries then no, it won't make money.
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|  #22 Posted on 21.2.04 1251.37 | Instant Rating: 5.04 | Originally posted by FurryHippie
Does anybody here think The Rock and failure even belong in the same sentence?
Didn't The Rock become a wrestler because he failed at football? 
If The Rock's movie career doesn't turn out to be overly successful, I think he'd come back to wrestling. Not for anything having to do with success or failure but simply because he clearly enjoys the spotlight.
Look at all the only-somewhat-over wrestlers that can't seem to retire. Now imagine how much harder it would be to walk away if you were on The Rock's level of popularity. Even if his movie career soars to greater heights than ever before seen, I don't think Rocky will ever truly abandon wrestling. How often does someone like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt have a chance to hear tens of thousands of people chanting their name? | oldschoolhero
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|  #23 Posted on 21.2.04 1255.24 | Instant Rating: 5.20 | Well, it won't do the same cost/revenue ratio as in North America, mainly due to the fact that they're not reproducing the film in every country it's released in. Pushing a film in a selected market does cost a fair chunk of change, you're right, but nowhere near the amount of money that they would make off of it. The combined European market is roughly equal to or bigger than the NA market, which means it stands a chance of at least doubling its initial intake-and even if it doesn't, it'll still handily cover its budget and peripheral costs. Then it'll be counted as a moderate success, a Commando or a Running Man, to use an Arnie comparison. The Rock is nowhere near a flop. If he'd starred in Gigli..well, maybe you'd have a point. But in a film that's going to make a half-decent amount of money at worst? Nope.
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| #24 Posted on 21.2.04 1301.30 | Instant Rating: 5.15 | Originally posted by oldschoolhero
Well, it won't do the same cost/revenue ratio as in North America, mainly due to the fact that they're not reproducing the film in every country it's released in. Pushing a film in a selected market does cost a fair chunk of change, you're right, but nowhere near the amount of money that they would make off of it. The combined European market is roughly equal to or bigger than the NA market, which means it stands a chance of at least doubling its initial intake-and even if it doesn't, it'll still handily cover its budget and peripheral costs. Then it'll be counted as a moderate success, a Commando or a Running Man, to use an Arnie comparison. The Rock is nowhere near a flop. If he'd starred in Gigli..well, maybe you'd have a point. But in a film that's going to make a half-decent amount of money at worst? Nope.
I didn't say he was a flop or a failure. That's not even what Meltzer said in the first place which is what themaker seems to be stuck on. All he said was that the studio was dissapointed with The Rundown and thought it was going to do a lot better then it did. | Lexus
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| #25 Posted on 21.2.04 1543.00 | Instant Rating: 5.62 | Originally posted by FurryHippie
Originally posted by dr beavis
he needs wrestling and wrestling fans more than ever with the way the rundown flopped. if he chalks up another bomb with walking tall, how in demand is he going to be then?
Why the hell are you saying he 'needs' wrestling more than ever since his movies are flopping? The man is a multi-millionare and could sit on his oddly-hairlined bum for the rest of his life and burn hundreds if he wanted to.
Actually, he already does that, but it's centipedes he's burning, not money
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| #26 Posted on 21.2.04 2002.02 | Instant Rating: 2.23 | I'm sorry if people think I'm beating a dead horse. My only point in this is there is a perception that The Rock star has been tarnished by a less than stellar performance for the Rundown, and I'm just trying to tell people its simply not true. The powers that be in Hollywood still see him a very marketable star (more so than Vin Diesel), for all the reasons I've listed before. Glowing reviews of his performance, only help that.
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