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|  #1 Posted on 18.4.04 2110.25 | Instant Rating: 5.23 | Anybody else watch this on comedy central if not here is the link for the lists http://www.comedycentral.com/ tv_shows/100greatest/ list.jhtml
and for the lazy here is the top 20
20) Sam Kinison
19) Bill Hicks
18) Jonathan Winters
17) Don Rickles
16) Ellen Degeneres
15) David Letterman
14) Bob Newhart
13) Robin Williams
12) Jerry Seinfeld
11) Johnny Carson
10) Eddie Murphy
9) Roseanne Barr
8) Bill Cosby
7) Rodney Dangerfield
6) Steve Martin
5) Chris Rock
4) Woody Allen
3) Lenny Bruce
2) George Carlin
1) Richard Pryor
To me it was hard to argue some of them though I do think Bob Hope (who came in 25) probably should have been top 20, and I would have put Roseanne a little bit further down. But as a guy who has seen a lot of stand up and has actually seen video or heard tapes, CDs, records of the people on the list its hard to argue who was included, and other than a little rearranging I pretty much agree with the rankings.
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| #2 Posted on 18.4.04 2115.56 | Instant Rating: 6.17 | I think Lenny Bruce and George Carlin should swap places. I am really surprised Richard Lewis isn't in the top 20 but I guess he isn't everyone's cup of tea. Roseanna actually WAS very funny in her day. If anyone has any doubt, about Richard Pryor being number 1, go download a few mp3 from his greatest hits CD and become a believer. Between him and Lenny Bruce, almost everyone has "borrowered" (i.e. stolen) from him.
EDIT
Going though the entire list, unless I am blind they don't have Margret Cho! WTF? They have Gallangher but no Cho? I am quite surprised. It's Comedy Central so obviously they know more about comedians then me....
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| #3 Posted on 18.4.04 2130.38 | Instant Rating: 7.66 | Did anyone catch the episode of Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn when he found out he was 56 on the list. He ranted about it for the whole show, while of course catching shit about it from the guests. Even Quinn mentioned he was bumped up 20 spots just because he hosts a show on Comedy Central. I don't think he belongs on the list at all.
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| #4 Posted on 18.4.04 2133.22 | Instant Rating: 3.65 | Originally posted by Santa Sangre
And no Conan O'Brien...
When did he do stand up? Although, I guess they are counting monologues, as they seemed to base Carson solely on that.
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| #5 Posted on 18.4.04 2142.28 | Instant Rating: 6.64 | Dave Chappelle, Colin Quinn, and Dave Attell in front of Eddie Izzard and Sinbad? Take this list back to Rolling Stone. 
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|  #6 Posted on 18.4.04 2155.06 | Instant Rating: 7.26 | Personal preference, of course...
but Richard Jeni at 57 is silly.
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| #7 Posted on 18.4.04 2219.55 | Instant Rating: 7.03 |
I'd have Newhart top 5. His work from the 50s and 60s was groundbreaking. And pee-your-pants funny.
Carson's placement makes a lot more sense if you take into account that sketch comedy was a staple of the Tonight Show for years.
The exclusion of Emo Phillips is criminal.
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| #8 Posted on 18.4.04 2312.32 | Instant Rating: 6.21 | Dennis Leary is rated way way to low. Funny as all hell that guy. And Cedric the Entertainer...is not even top 50? Who the hell wrote that list...
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| #9 Posted on 18.4.04 2328.53 | Instant Rating: 7.38 | Pretty decent list...even if everyone keeps buying into the myth that Robin Williams is funny.
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| #10 Posted on 18.4.04 2356.58 | Instant Rating: 5.67 | I totally agree with Tarnish about Bob Newhart. He should be top five at the very least. Jerry Seinfeld (as the most successful and well-known of the "80's style" comedian) also should've been higher.
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| #11 Posted on 19.4.04 0013.07 | Instant Rating: 6.96 | Kinison is too low. Hicks is too low. Ellen is too high. Rock is too high. Switch Kinison for Rock and Hicks for Ellen and I would be much happier. Kinison was incredible in his prime before the drugs and attention made him a one-trick pony.
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| #12 Posted on 19.4.04 0821.50 | Instant Rating: 5.82 | Ellen Degeneres at 16??? Who the hell finds this woman funny? No way should she be anywhere near the top 20, never mind in it.
Well at least they got the #1 comedian right and the top 10 right for the most part, although I think Kinison should be in the top 10.
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| #13 Posted on 19.4.04 0827.35 | Instant Rating: 3.22 | The only serious gripe with this list that I have is that Andy Kaufman was #35. He's top 20 material at the very least.
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| #14 Posted on 19.4.04 0833.58 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | Originally posted by Shem the Penman
The only serious gripe with this list that I have is that Andy Kaufman was #35. He's top 20 material at the very least.
That's the problem with Andy. You either got what he was doing and LOVED him, or thought he was a psycho and didn't deserve to be on the list. I think we need more comics like him, willing to "think out of the box".
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| #15 Posted on 19.4.04 0849.10 | Instant Rating: 5.75 | Originally posted by eviljonhunt81
Originally posted by Santa Sangre
And no Conan O'Brien...
When did he do stand up? Although, I guess they are counting monologues, as they seemed to base Carson solely on that.
If Conan got in for his monologues, then you might see rioting in the streets. Conan's monologue is always the worst part of his show. That's probably why he only does 3-4 jokes and stops. Even Jay Leno hits sometimes. Don't get me wrong, I love Conan's show. I just don't like the monologue.
Anyways, my main gripe about the show is that I find most women comedians to be terribly unfunny. I understand that they had to put Elayne Boosler on the list for pure longevity, but I don't remember ever laughing at one joke she told. Roseanne was awful too, and the Judy's (Tenuta and Gold) are both dreadful. There are plenty of bad male comedians as well, but I just think that outside of Wanda Sykes, most female comedians just miss the mark.
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| #16 Posted on 19.4.04 0933.44 | Instant Rating: 7.29 | Ahem...
# 21 Dennis Miller
# 33 Andy Kaufmann
# 50 Denis Leary
How exactly did these guys wind up this low?
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| #17 Posted on 19.4.04 1016.03 | Instant Rating: 4.64 | Originally posted by Socks
And Cedric the Entertainer...is not even top 50?
PLEASE tell me you are kidding about Cedric?!
I actually saw him on Leno the other night & he was ripping off material from BOBCAT GOLDTHWAIT in the 80s.
That's right... Bobcat FRIGGIN Goldthwait!!
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| #18 Posted on 19.4.04 1050.33 | Instant Rating: 0.00 | Originally posted by Grimis
Ahem...
# 21 Dennis Miller
# 33 Andy Kaufmann
# 50 Denis Leary
How exactly did these guys wind up this low?
Miller has had more than his share of television and movie bombs, which doesn't help his case much. Ditto for Leary, who was put 30 places below Bill Hicks as a sign that they knew from whom Leary borrowed his schtick.
As a counterpoint, a friend of mine was furious that Seinfeld was as high as #12, and I reasoned it was partly because he hadn't burned his reputation on much of anything outside his namesake sitcom lately. Every other cast member has at least one failed sitcom on the resume.
Kaufman could easily bump Ellen DeGeneres out of the top 20 without a complaint from me.
My kvetches:
* Woody Allen at #4? Yes, he's funny, but when I think Woody, I think "movie director," not "stand-up comic."
* Ray Romano does standup?
* Wait, Jay Leno's _supposed_ to be funny? Jay Leno over Jack Motherfucking Benny and Milton Berle? Get the hell out of here.
* Colin Quinn's 20+ places over Eddie Izzard, Dom Irrera AND George Wallace? WTF?
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| #19 Posted on 19.4.04 1318.30 | Instant Rating: 6.00 | Personally, "top 100 lists of anything" annoy me to no end. But I'm glad to see the Cos end up as #8. Forget Dr. Huxtable, "To Russell, My Brother, Whom I Slept With" still cracks me up. I have to fight a smirk whenever I hear anything close to the words "Chicken Heart".
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