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Since: 26.6.02
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#1 Posted on
The BBC have asked people to vote in for their top Briton's. It was decided last night. Here is the list with a few notes.

1 Winston Churchill (Fair enough)
2 Isambard Kingdom Brunel (Vote rigging suspected by Brunel University)
3 Princess Diana (For fuck's sake, WHY?! Because she died?)
4 Charles Darwin
5 William Shakespeare (If such a man existed...)
6 Isaac Newton (My number one choice, but then he is a personal hero of mine)
7 John Lennon
8 Elizabeth I
9 Horatio Nelson
10 Oliver Cromwell
11 Ernest Shackleton
12 Captain James Cook
13 Lord Baden-Powell
14 King Alfred the Great
15 Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington
16 Margaret Thatcher (The first on the list still breathing, unfortunately. I never forgave her for stealing my milk in school)
17 Michael Crawford (Vote rigging by his fan club)
18 Queen Victoria
19 Sir Paul McCartney
20 Sir Alexander Fleming
21 Alan Turing OBE
22 Michael Faraday
23 Owain Glyndwr
24 Queen Elizabeth II (Jubilee year pushed her up the list)
25 Professor Stephen Hawking (Clever guy, but in all honesty, probably high due to his condition than his work)
26 William Tyndale
27 Emmeline Pankhurst
28 William Wilberforce
29 David Bowie (Well, Diamond Dogs was good...)
30 Guy Fawkes (Catholic terrorist number 30?)
31 Leonard Cheshire
32 Eric Morecambe OBE
33 David Beckham (Go fuck yourself you one-footed, overrated, lazy bastard)
34 Thomas Paine
35 Boudicca
36 Sir Steve Redgrave (Greatest Olympian)
37 Sir Thomas More
38 William Blake
39 John Harrison
40 King Henry VIII (Destroyed historical buildings, started own religion to allow himself to get divorced)
41 Charles Dickens
42 Sir Frank Whittle
43 John Peel (Radio DJ for 40 years. Also rigged, I think)
44 John Logie Baird
45 Aneurin Bevan (NHS founder)
46 Boy George (?! Seriously, why?)
47 Sir Douglas Bader
48 William Wallace (People voted for Mel Gibson)
49 Sir Francis Drake
50 John Wesley
51 King Arthur (If he existed...)
52 Florence Nightingale
53 TE Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) (People voted for Peter O'Toole)
54 Captain Robert Falcon Scott
55 Enoch Powell (Racist politician who said immigrants should go back where they came from. Voted for by arseholes)
56 Sir Cliff Richard (Either the world's greastest virgin or closet case)
57 Sir Alexander Graham Bell
58 Freddie Mercury
59 Dame Julie Andrews
60 Edward Elgar
61 Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother (Well, forget the support of the Nazis and that... Did so well because she died this year)
62 George Harrison (See Queen Mother, without the Nazis)
63 Sir David Attenborough
64 James Connolly
65 George Stephenson
66 Sir Charles (Charlie) Chaplin
67 Tony Blair (Dubya's bitch)
68 William Caxton
69 Bobby Moore OBE (English football captain who lifted the World Cup)
70 Jane Austen (Mills and Boon hundreds of years ago. Shite writer)
71 William Booth
72 King Henry V
73 Aleister Crowley (Got the devil worshipper vote, I guess)
74 King Robert the Bruce
75 Bob Geldof KBE (Band Aid)
76 The Unknown Warrior
77 Robbie Williams (FUCK OFF, YOU FAT TALENTLESS SHIT)
78 Edward Jenner
79 David Lloyd George (1st Earl Lloyd George of Dwyfor
80 Charles Babbage
81 Geoffrey Chaucer
82 King Richard III
83 JK Rowling OBE (Oh please...)
84 James Watt
85 Sir Richard Branson (Millionaire who cannot run trains)
86 Bono
87 John Lydon (Johnny Rotten)
88 Field Marshal Montgomery
89 Donald Campbell (Died attempting to break water speed record. Represents British tradition of trying something and getting applauded even if you die horribly)
90 King Henry II
91 James Clerk Maxwell
92 JRR Tolkien
93 Sir Walter Raleigh
94 King Edward I
95 Sir Barnes Neville Wallis
96 Richard Burton
97 Tony Benn
98 David Livingstone
99 Professor Tim Berners-Lee
100 Marie Stopes

Overall, a load of populist bollocks. I seriously believe that people have no idea about the history of their own country anymore.

Would the US one be like this, with figures like Washington and Lincoln fighting for places against Michael Jordan and Eminem?



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Since: 6.1.02
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#2 Posted on
Depends on how the balloting went. I'm sure someone's done something like this.

Anyway, I thought a "Briton" was someone specifically from England. Is it all the British Isles? Because I caught a couple Scots and at least one Irishman on there.

(edited by MoeGates on 25.11.02 1037)


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Since: 11.7.02
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
My question is where the hell is William the Conquerer. Yeah, he was from Normandy but jesus chirst if it weren't for him they wouldn't BE a Britain as we know it.

No Beatle should be in the top 50. Sorry, they were musicians. John Lennon at # 7 is especially egregious.



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Since: 26.6.02
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#4 Posted on

    Originally posted by MoeGates
    Depends on how the balloting went. I'm sure someone's done something like this.

    Anyway, I thought a "Briton" was someone specifically from England. Is it all the British Isles? Because I caught a couple Scots and at least one Irishman on there.

    (edited by MoeGates on 25.11.02 1037)



'Briton', in this case meant from the British Isles, including the Republic of Ireland (so, technically, William was French).




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#5 Posted on
The Beatles were the most influential musicians in the last 100 years - John Lennon was a visionary genius. He most certainly belongs that high. I kinda feel bad for Ringo, though.

Princess Di being ahead of Shakespeare, Darwin, Issac Newton (and The Beatles), well, that's just upsetting...

And there wasn't room for Monty Python? I mean, we got Robbie Williams and a Sex Pistol on there - we can't squeeze in John Cleese? Python was more important than "Rock DJ" certainly.

And where the fuck is William Regal?!

(The American one wouldn't have *nearly* that many political figures. Washington, Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Lincoln, Roosevelt - maybe Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy. Reagan's got an unexplainable cult of popularity in this country. That's probably about it. We'd have to make room for Julia Roberts, certainly.)



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#6 Posted on
OK, so Ireland counts? In that case, where the hell is James Joyce (and probably a million other authors I'm forgetting) and Charles Stewart Parnell? And Roy Keane. I mean, you put Beckham on the list.

Also, no Gladstone OR Disraeli?

That's a weird-ass list.

If this was an internet ballot without cheating (yeah right) I'd guess the #1 American voted would be Abe Lincoln. But that's just my guess.

Would the US one be like this, with figures like Washington and Lincoln fighting for places against Michael Jordan and Eminem?

This is hilarious. I can just see it now.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the 100 greatest Americans ever.

#1 - Abraham Linclon
#2 - Martin Luther King Jr.
#3 - Albert Einstein
#4 - Eminem
#5 - George Washington
#6 - Michael Jordan
#7 - Thomas Jefferson
#8 - John F. Kennedy
#9 - Tupac Shakur
#10 - Tiget Woods




(edited by MoeGates on 25.11.02 1148)


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Since: 26.6.02
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#7 Posted on
Ok I read the list twice and all I can say is where is Benny Hill?! His was the first name I thought of when I saw the title of the thread. I watched him a lot as a kid and loved every minute of it.




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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.06
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#9 Posted on
I paid no attention when the list was brought out, mainly due to the absence of Alfred Hitchcock, but Churchill winning is pretty much the best outcome. After all, our country wouldn't still be here without him.




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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
Where's Lord Horatio Nelson? i mean, all he did was stop an armada...



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Since: 10.4.02
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#11 Posted on
I know I'm a huge mark, but where's Jon Pertwee or Tom Baker?



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29

    Originally posted by MoeGates
    Ladies and Gentlemen, the 100 greatest Americans ever.

    #1 - Abraham Linclon
    #2 - Martin Luther King Jr.
    #3 - Albert Einstein
    #4 - Eminem
    #5 - George Washington
    #6 - Michael Jordan
    #7 - Thomas Jefferson
    #8 - John F. Kennedy
    #9 - Tupac Shakur
    #10 - Tiget Woods



No, depending on the day of the week and how much the media manipulated it, the list of Americans would wind up like this

# 1 John F Kennedy
# 2 Jesse Jackson
# 3 Alec Baldwin
# 4 Al Sharpton
# 5 Barbara Streisand
# 6 LBJ
# 7 Barry Bonds
# 8 Eugene Debs
# 9 Michael Jackson
# 10 Rally Monkey





LIBERAL- adj: abundant, incapable, self-serving, racist, confiscatory, welfare-loving, anti-liberty, scrooge-like, indulgent, lavish, unprincipled, closed-minded, philanthropic with other peoples money, big-government loving, selfish, uptight, unrealisitc, unenlightened, discriminatory, totalitarian, partial, strict, overpermissive, intolerant, biased, bigoted, prejudiced
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A-MOL
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Since: 26.6.02
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#13 Posted on
Nelson is at #9.

Benny Hill's comedy is seen as an embarassing non-PC throwback to the 70's over here, so he never gets credit for his work.



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Since: 6.1.02
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#14 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by MoeGates
      Ladies and Gentlemen, the 100 greatest Americans ever.

      #1 - Abraham Linclon
      #2 - Martin Luther King Jr.
      #3 - Albert Einstein
      #4 - Eminem
      #5 - George Washington
      #6 - Michael Jordan
      #7 - Thomas Jefferson
      #8 - John F. Kennedy
      #9 - Tupac Shakur
      #10 - Tiget Woods



    No, depending on the day of the week and how much the media manipulated it, the list of Americans would wind up like this

    # 1 John F Kennedy
    # 2 Jesse Jackson
    # 3 Alec Baldwin
    # 4 Al Sharpton
    # 5 Barbara Streisand
    # 6 LBJ
    # 7 Barry Bonds
    # 8 Eugene Debs
    # 9 Michael Jackson
    # 10 Rally Monkey




C'mon, take it to the politics forum. (Alec Baldwin. Jeez)



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#15 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by MoeGates
      Ladies and Gentlemen, the 100 greatest Americans ever.

      #1 - Abraham Linclon
      #2 - Martin Luther King Jr.
      #3 - Albert Einstein
      #4 - Eminem
      #5 - George Washington
      #6 - Michael Jordan
      #7 - Thomas Jefferson
      #8 - John F. Kennedy
      #9 - Tupac Shakur
      #10 - Tiget Woods



    No, depending on the day of the week and how much the media manipulated it, the list of Americans would wind up like this

    # 1 John F Kennedy
    # 2 Jesse Jackson
    # 3 Alec Baldwin
    # 4 Al Sharpton
    # 5 Barbara Streisand
    # 6 LBJ
    # 7 Barry Bonds
    # 8 Eugene Debs
    # 9 Michael Jackson
    # 10 Rally Monkey




I thought the media hates Bonds?



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#16 Posted on

    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    And there wasn't room for Monty Python? I mean, we got Robbie Williams and a Sex Pistol on there - we can't squeeze in John Cleese? Python was more important than "Rock DJ" certainly.



Sorry. I can't resist:

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"WHO'RE THE BRITONS?!"




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Since: 11.12.01
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#17 Posted on

Thousands of years of British history and a freaking POP SONGWRITER/SINGER is in the top 10?

I like the Beatles, etc., but top ten for Lennon is a sad sick joke.

Princess Di gets the John Kennedy "beautiful dead" vote despite not doing anything of note.





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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

    Originally posted by A-MOL
    Nelson is at #9.

    Benny Hill's comedy is seen as an embarassing non-PC throwback to the 70's over here, so he never gets credit for his work.



OMG they stripped him of his lordship!!!
whoops...i was scanning for "Lord" and passed over him...





Wrestling has been rhyming with ass. I miss shows and it makes me all shades of ambivalence. WWE is starting to suck again. The crops?
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That's just my 2.4856 Yen.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22

    Originally posted by NickBockwinkelFan
    I know I'm a huge mark, but where's Jon Pertwee or Tom Baker?


It's nice to see I wasn't the only one looking for former Doctors in the list. Given what a varied group this list turned out to be, I would have expected Baker to be on the list.

Steph



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

    Originally posted by Stephanie

      Originally posted by NickBockwinkelFan
      I know I'm a huge mark, but where's Jon Pertwee or Tom Baker?


    It's nice to see I wasn't the only one looking for former Doctors in the list. Given what a varied group this list turned out to be, I would have expected Baker to be on the list.

    Steph



I'm honestly surpirsed i didn't see a Blackadder in the bunch




Wrestling has been rhyming with ass. I miss shows and it makes me all shades of ambivalence. WWE is starting to suck again. The crops?
Jeezum Spice! Someone stole my crops. What in the ham fat is going on. That's just poo-doo!
That's just my 2.4856 Yen.
R-D-Z
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