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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.43
Missed most of the opening talk-fest....The opening contest was good from what I saw- flipped between that and the Marlins/Cubs game on ESPN (stupid Marlins!)....The bikini contest was whatever. At least there was a semi-interesting payoff....

How many Vince/Shawn video packages do we need?....The Shawn/Vince match wasn't much, and the post match stuff was kinda dumb....I wonder if they'll put Umaga over Flair at Backlash?....

The Mickie/Trish feud has kinda died down, and tonight's segment was pointless....The main event was a non-finish too, and nothing they haven't done in the handicap matches.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.18
Show was okay, but am I the only one not looking forward to a DX reunion? I know the fans are cheering for this and it would probably go over good for a month or so, but can you really have an anti-establishment group headed by the 37 yr old son in law of the boss and a 41 devout Christian?



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.29
My biggest problem with tonight was the 6-man tag. RVD is on the same team as the guy who kept him on the shelf by re-breaking his ankle?? I mean come on. I know no one on the creative team cares about backstory, but no mention of it at all? I didn't even care that they were on the same team... but RVD and Carlito just slapping hands and being by gosh just a happy face team insulted my intelligence more than God as Shawn Michaels' tag team partner ever could.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81
To be fair, Carlito wasn't just slapping hands and gosh just happy with RVD, he was acting quite heelish (making sure RVD got the hot tag with Haas, not himself, only reluctantly getting involved at all in the match, etc.) even being on the face team. He didn't even celebrate the win with RVD and Haas. I don't know if he was told to do that, or if Carilito recognized on his own that he couldn't just act all buddy-buddy with RVD, but I don't think it played out that badly.

Same can't be said about the Trish/Mickie angle, in my opinion I think we can declare the angle officially botched. At one time, it looked like they may be able to turn that into a money match (rare for the women). But that opportunity has been lost.



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#5 Posted on
    Originally posted by sentonBOMB
    My biggest problem with tonight was the 6-man tag. RVD is on the same team as the guy who kept him on the shelf by re-breaking his ankle?? I mean come on. I know no one on the creative team cares about backstory, but no mention of it at all? I didn't even care that they were on the same team... but RVD and Carlito just slapping hands and being by gosh just a happy face team insulted my intelligence more than God as Shawn Michaels' tag team partner ever could.

I would agree with you if you just singled out RVD, but Carlito was far from cooperative and the happy babyface partner. From the beginning when Carlito heelishly took charge and pushed RVD and Haas out of the ring so he could start the match only to run for a quick tag after first contact, Carlito was playing the heel forced to tag with the faces role. However, RVD showed no antagonism toward Carlito, which just doesn't make sense.

I really hope Vince disappears for a while after Backlash and Shawn Michaels can move on to a feud with the real wrestlers. And, what happened to Vince hiring another GM for Raw?

Unfortunately, we can't get rid of Kane that easily. I guess we are stuck with the pushing (or should I say shoving down the throats) of his movie for another 2 months minimum.
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    Originally posted by The 5th Horseman
    However, RVD showed no antagonism toward Carlito, which just doesn't make sense.


RVD's gimmick is that he is a doper, right? Short term memory loss, my man....






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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.97
    Originally posted by geemoney
    The Mickie/Trish feud has kinda died down, and tonight's segment was pointless.


So you missed the point, wasn't pointless, that now that Mickie relized she shouldn't idolize Trish but Trish is crazier than Mickie now. I got she was trying to really tick Mickie off as bad a Mickie ticked her trying to be like her in the begining of all this. I'm glad it was a short piece in the show but not "pointless".



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.29
    Originally posted by AWArulz
      Originally posted by The 5th Horseman
      However, RVD showed no antagonism toward Carlito, which just doesn't make sense.


    RVD's gimmick is that he is a doper, right? Short term memory loss, my man....






And yeah, I guess it was RVD's actions I was more focused on. The guy puts you on the shelf for a couple more months so you can't wrestle at the PPV you essentially created, and there's no ill will...
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
Isn't the "we are faces now, so we forget the past" always what happens when a heel turns face?

It's wrestling. Events are there to be forgotten by the people involved the moment they turn face/heel.




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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.84
sentonBOMB brings up a great point, but I have to admit I overlooked that for the faaantastic action those 6 guys put together. Match of the night. Plus, I am a "back-cracker" mark.

It wasn't wrestling, but hell, I enjoyed the bikini contest.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.87
Kathy and Tonia (sunburned from Spring Break) couldn't make it, so Travis alone came over to catch the show. We had to clarify why the crowd loved the heel Triple H but not the also-heel Edge (Triple H is playing to the crowd as a cool heel, which virtually everyone loves to watch). When the Spirit Squad interrupted the main-event guys, he called up Kathy to taunt her. We agreed to TiFaux the match for her to watch next week.

Otherwise, this was a bleh show to sell the PPV. And since Travis wasn't keen on buying that, he wasn't into the show. Same with us; we rarely watch the B-level PPVs.

Travis thinks Lita is the hottest of the divas, although Victoria caught his eye in the bikini contest. We dug the big Shane stunt, and I shared the joke I read right here, on this very board, that God's finisher would require the Four Horsemen to reunite. That went over big. Jackson, take a bow.

The Kane/Show segment flopped with us. It unfortunately followed a Jon Lovitz Subway commercial, and we mocked the skit by imitating Lovitz's Master Thespian character. Seriously, Kane just can't pull off this crazy stuff that well without the mask. We were glad to see Flair, but the Lovely Mrs. Tracker was distracted by Umaga's opponent and what appeared to be the Seattle Seahawk logo on his tights.





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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
    Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
    Show was okay, but am I the only one not looking forward to a DX reunion? I know the fans are cheering for this and it would probably go over good for a month or so, but can you really have an anti-establishment group headed by the 37 yr old son in law of the boss and a 41 devout Christian?
Are we also supposed to believe that after the whole "Shane buying WCW behind his dad's back," Shane is now heralded as the wonderful product of VKM semen? Without even a shout-out to Linda?

I missed most of the show, but tuned in just in time to see the Spirit Squad vs Edge/HHH/Cena match. The Spirit Squad, to me, is terrific. Talk about taking one of the most horrific gimmicks (after the wrestling dentist, the wrestling tax attourney, and Judy Steiner), and going insanely over the top to make it hilarious and entertaining...it's impressive, IMO.

HHH: "Lita, I meant to ask you for advice on tonights match, since you have experience taking on 5 guys at one time!" Priceless.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
Why was Lita not in the bikini contest?!?! She's the Sinister Sexpot!! I usually dislike long opening promos, but that one was well done. I always dig the foreign crowds, they are quite usually rabid, and last night was no exception. Having a big, hot crowd makes all the difference in the world.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.46
    Originally posted by jfkfc
    Are we also supposed to believe that after the whole "Shane buying WCW behind his dad's back," Shane is now heralded as the wonderful product of VKM semen?


It's what those crazy cats do. Vince and Stephanie were getting along two months after she was trying to run him out of business forever.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.72

OK...my thoughts.

The VKM vs. God stuff is getting a little over the top for me. I hope the payoff is either good or quick...this just needs to go away.

And am I the only one who is getting tired of Cena getting booed for no apparent reason other than "it's cool" to boo him? I get it, his gimmick has been neutred, but as far as his ring work goes he's not THAT bad. This just seems like audience assassination to me. Not that I'm a big fan either...but I don't think he deserves the level of vitriole that he's been receiving.

HHH on the other hand...he's good at what he does, when he seems motivated enough. His mic work, and ring work have been decent as of late again...I just worry that the audience should be careful what they wish for.

That's my 2 cents...
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