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Zeruel Thirty Millionth Hit Moderator Since: 2.1.02 From: The Silver Spring in the Land of Mary. Since last post: 187 days Last activity: 129 days # 1 Posted on 4.4.03 0105.53 | Instant Rating: 4.05 need stat help... i couldn't find on nhl.com or espn.com on any info on what a +/- stat means or how it's calculated. can anyone explain it to me? "Grabbin your butt? That's not very lady-like." "I'm not a lady." "Oh. Whatever." 力堵山 Promote this thread!
fuelinjected Banger Since: 12.10.02 From: Canada Since last post: 4387 days Last activity: 4387 days # 2 Posted on 4.4.03 0114.06 If a player is on the ice when his team scores, he gets a +1. If he's on the ice when a goal is scored against his team, he gets a -1.
Jaguar Knackwurst Since: 23.1.02 From: In a Blue State finally Since last post: 292 days Last activity: 94 days # 3 Posted on 4.4.03 0200.54 You don't get a +1 for a goal during a Power Play, though. At least, that's what NHL Hitz has lead me to believe.... -Jag From the mouth of my uncle Jim, the Republican banker: "I regret voting for Bush." "We need to vote him out of office." I am in Shock. I am in Awe.
Keeper Blutwurst Moderator Since: 1.3.02 From: Worcester, MA Since last post: 952 days Last activity: 4 days # 4 Posted on 4.4.03 0839.29 That is correct. You only get a plus or a minus on even strength goals, so shorthand and power play goals don't count. They are the "Lovely Angels"
Jaguar Knackwurst Since: 23.1.02 From: In a Blue State finally Since last post: 292 days Last activity: 94 days # 5 Posted on 4.4.03 1044.35 You don't get a + for a short handed goal? What a ripoff. You should get a +2. -Jag From the mouth of my uncle Jim, the Republican banker: "I regret voting for Bush." "We need to vote him out of office." I am in Shock. I am in Awe.
Keeper Blutwurst Moderator Since: 1.3.02 From: Worcester, MA Since last post: 952 days Last activity: 4 days # 6 Posted on 4.4.03 1055.56 I made a mistake. You do get a plus or minus for a shorthanded goal. I was going by what I have been told over and over by the local announcers. I looked around a bit to verify that the information was correct and found this link, which states: When an even-strength or shorthanded goal is scored, every player on the ice for the team scoring the goal is credited with a plus. Every player on the ice for the team scored against gets a minus. A player's overall total is calculated by subtracting the minuses from the pluses. A high plus total is taken to suggest that a guy is a good defensive player. I verified it on another site, so I apologize for the misinformation. They are the "Lovely Angels"
Big Bad Scrapple Since: 4.1.02 From: Dorchester, Ontario Since last post: 13 days Last activity: 13 hours # 7 Posted on 5.4.03 0257.58 | Instant Rating: 5.54 The all-time record for plus/minus is Bobby Orr, who had a +- of over 100 one season. That's insane. 1000 posts and still not Wiener of the Day! Are you racist? Brought to you by the good folks at sacwriters.com.
J.T. Dutch Pickled pork Since: 3.1.02 From: SoCal 4 Life Since last post: 3797 days Last activity: 167 days # 8 Posted on 5.4.03 0827.40
... Orr's +/- was +124, but I believe that those on the ice when a PP goal was scored were credited with pluses at that time. That isn't the case anymore. I think the highest +/- since the new standards came into effect is Wayne Gretzky's +98 in 1984-85. "Now you're gonna see ... a PerfectPlex!!!" Rest In Peace, Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig. You are missed. - J.T. Dutch
tarnish Landjager Since: 13.2.02 From: Back in the Heart of Hali Since last post: 453 days Last activity: 7 hours
AIM: # 9 Posted on 5.4.03 2319.27 | Instant Rating: 7.03 What makes the gaudy plus/minus ratings of Gretzky and Orr even more absurd is the fact that they were both on the ice for somewhere around half of any given game (well, Gretzky not quite half and Orr just over half). A plus/minus of +20 or better is excellent--only 30 or so guys in the league this year did better. Forsberg and Hedjuk lead the league with +50, which I'd consider pretty ridiculous; but numbers like +98 and +124 are not of this world. /tarnish... Did you walk to school or bring a lunch?
dMp Knackwurst Since: 4.1.02 From: The Hague, Netherlands (Europe) Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 10 hours # 10 Posted on 7.4.03 0846.56 Usually the +/- ratings are led by the best defenders (who also know how to score/pass) or by good two way forwards like Lidstrom, Pronger or Forsberg. I believe around +50 is the standard for the winner of this category at the end of the season.
PhilRippa Chourico Since: 4.1.02 From: Fairfax, VA Since last post: 3078 days Last activity: 1683 days # 11 Posted on 8.4.03 1157.54
This year's top 10 was 1 P. Forsberg (COL,LW) +52 Milan Hejduk (COL,RW) +52 3 N. Lidstrom (DET,D) +40 4 Jere Lehtinen (DAL,RW) +39 5 D. Hatcher (DAL,D) +37 6 Mike Modano (DAL,C) +34 Alex Tanguay (COL,LW) +34 8 E. Desjardins (PHI,D) +30 Adam Foote (COL,D) +30 10 Zdeno Chara (OTT,D) +29 So, as you can see, it helps to have Patrick Roy or Marty Turco as your goaltender :-P Phil Hate World, Revenge Soon DVDVR.com
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